Hey, I just joined. It's spooky how much I relate to all of these threads!
Almost every time my girlfriend and I are out with her friends I get this: I step away to get a drink or something, and as soon as I'm gone one of them will ask my girlfriend what's wrong. They always think I'm mad at them, which of course I'm not. It's a scream that I end up being the one who is unaproachable. Politeness and courtesy are actually personal values of mine (from the South and all), but I blow it every chance I get! (ha ha)
Almost every time my girlfriend and I are out with her friends I get this: I step away to get a drink or something, and as soon as I'm gone one of them will ask my girlfriend what's wrong. They always think I'm mad at them, which of course I'm not. It's a scream that I end up being the one who is unaproachable. Politeness and courtesy are actually personal values of mine (from the South and all), but I blow it every chance I get! (ha ha)
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Tue, May 10, 2005 - 9:18 PMyeh...
i get the "whats wrong" thing...
and then i actually do get pissed.... i mean wtf....are you suppose to be giggling and making loud conversation 100% of the time to prove that there isnt anything wrong?
also when drunk i guess i make "bitch face" tilted back head..lids heavy but not closed and i dont know how that equates to bitch...but whatever.
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Tue, May 10, 2005 - 11:34 PMWelcome!
Ooh, and good point about being from the South! I am, too, sorta (Texas), and I think the politeness / courtesy values make it really hard when you're also shy or socially anxious - like I feel all guilty about not being able to live up to those values.
But as to your question, the thing I get more more than rude is 'mean' or 'scary' - as in, "I thought you were so mean before I met you!"
And yes, people frequently coming up at bars or parties saying, "Why aren't you smiling!?!"
Had a really interesting experience last week that I just found out about second hand: I was at a party and in an unusually good mood, feeling strangely outgoing. This friend of my boyfriend who I've never met was there, watching me, and she asked him later, "He's an introvert, isn't he?" She said she saw me going around talking to everyone and smiling, but then in-between this shadow would fall over me. Very perceptive! -
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 1:14 AMIt's weird when people pick up on it, truly...because a lot of us shy folks work so hard to hide it. When someone is that perceptive, I think, "Oh, great. He/she is probably reading my thoughts like they're written across my face." I guess that people think I'm aloof, or not very approachable, because they won't start talking to me until they've had a couple of drinks, or they realize that they know someone who knows me.
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 5:08 AMor 'mean' or 'scary'?
*snicker*
Not only shy but also quirky and okay with all of it...
But it intimidates some and after exchanging a few conversational questions they find out I'm retired military and REALLY have nothing to do with me - too bad, they lose!
Cuz I'm prolly the sweetest most generous non demanding nor judgemental person they'll ever meet...
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 12:38 PMI too tend to get "mean" and "scary." I'll admit that when I was in high school, I worked to cultivate these adjectives because they were a great defense against the rednecks who would have otherwise wanted to fuck with me on a daily basis. Nowadays, it's not so useful.
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 1:38 AMMy mom always tells me to stop frowning. I snap back that I'm not frowning. When I am relaxed or thinking, my mouth naturally has a slight dip up so she says I am frowning when I'm not.
I get told I'm rude when I don't talk. Never have understood that one. -
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Sat, May 14, 2005 - 3:39 PMi can relate to you on that one ... when i relax my face i look like i'm sad or angry. my ex used to always think i was in a bad mood when i was feeling extremely content .. i have to constantly make a conscious effort to sorta 'pose' my face to seem neutral or just not sad!
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 1:52 AMI get arrogant a lot, which is strange. I just don't placate very much, I dont like talking to strangers and if i get put in a situation i feel uncomfortable i tend to leave abruptly. Well immediately, mid sentence at times. It's obvious I'm not a fan of casual conversation and people that engage me have told me I'm terse and mean to new people. They just scare me and i don't really know how to react in the correct way or the way in which they want me to.
Which brings me to another problem, i sometimes spend so much time trying to formulate a completely innocuous comment and by the time i have the courage to say it the person has wandered off... -
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 10:24 AMI get aloof, angry and intimidating. On the street, I get guys all the time telling me to smile, and at work people asking me, "What's wrong? Are you mad?"
My bestest guy friend when we first met and worked together (for about a month) told me that he always thought that I was too serious/mad/unfriendly and therefore intimidating. After the project was over, he found out that I wasn't. He's from Melbourne and is now in Montreal, and we IM almost every day. He always tells me, "You have to smile more, Eleanor". Ugh-I'd feel like the Joker if I did. -
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 10:39 AMYes i dont have a sunny personality. So all thoughout my day i dont crack a smile unless i need to. So if i send a picture to somone on the net the first thing they say is "why do you looked pissed?" -
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 11:48 AMNew to the tribe!! Most people have told me that I thought I was stuck up and that I was too good for everyone. I just have a hard time making small talk!
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Thu, May 12, 2005 - 10:56 PM< I get aloof, angry and intimidating. On the street, I get guys all the time telling me to smile, and at work people asking me, "What's wrong? Are you mad?">
damn...dont you hate that
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Sat, May 14, 2005 - 3:51 PMthat happens to me all the time. i put so much thought into each thing i'm going to say and ponder whether or not i should even say it that by the time i decide to, it's too late... i watch how other peoples' conversations flows so effortlessly & can't imagine how it would feel to talk without analyzing each thing before it comes out .. -
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Sat, May 14, 2005 - 4:53 PMThat is very much the position I find myself in. It's usually at its worst when I am standing by, waiting for a chance to engage someone for the first time.
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 12:40 PMYesto all three, and you can add "deaf-mute" to that.
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 7:20 PMPeople have told me that I look angry when im walking. I think its my facial structure, something i cant really help -
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Wed, May 11, 2005 - 7:58 PM'I yam what I yam' but it pisses me off when I yam not what people accuse me of being.
Sometimes, when in a group, I just wanna yell, 'stop your yammering, already.'
I am not rude, aloof or angry by nature but meaningless yammering is so ____. (fill in the blank w/ negative adjective)
Simply, silly (quotation fingers in the air) bugs the helloutta me. Let's create a bumper sticker that reads, 'I don't do small talk.'
On second thought, I'll take the earrings.
Mis Understood
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Thu, May 12, 2005 - 4:55 AMya whenever i used to meat peaple for the first time after seeing them around camcas a lot they would always say that when they saw me walking around i alwayslooked like i was pissed about somthing and so the hole time they wer afraid to aproche me cals they thot that i was a mean guy ... so then i put my sigeret out in ther fuckin eye hahaha theach them to think i'm fuckin mean!
to be perfectly clear that was a joke.
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Thu, May 12, 2005 - 9:57 AMNot that I know of. I think people pretty much figure me for shy. Cause I'm usually seem all happy and stuff.
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Thu, May 12, 2005 - 11:31 AMYeah, sometimes. I think it's all part of being misunderstood. I HATE being misunderstood & having people guess (or even worse, *suppose*) at what I'm thinking or feeling. But my quiet, reclusive nature pretty much guarantees just that. -
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Thu, May 19, 2005 - 5:14 PMI always get accused of being reclusive, and private. but I like small talk when I can do it , I think its a skill Ive had to work on though. I think people have many different ways of communicating verbally. Ive dealt with people who claim to be introverted and like to delve into really personal subjects right off the bat which is thier style of communicating because they say, they hate small talk. I dont know its all relative.
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Thu, May 12, 2005 - 10:54 PMnah...but i've been called an asshole
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Wed, May 18, 2005 - 7:09 PMYeah, I've been called a few things, arrogant, snob, bitch, etc... because I don't talk much in group settings!!! Get me alone and I won't stop talking though! :) -
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Wed, May 18, 2005 - 8:02 PMyeah. some of my wife's friends have told her they are scared of me. (!) and i get told by close friends that i come across to those who don't know me as aloof. i don't worry about it much anymore. what is much worse is expending the emotional energy required to put on a "social" face so others will think you are happy and friendly. (which i may well be of course, just not expressing it the way our simplistic, monolithic culture requires). -
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Wed, May 18, 2005 - 8:12 PMi am so pissed actually. at human culture. particularly that of the u.s. for not allowing room for differences in individual human temperment. everybody in america is supposed to be some loud, bold, confident, sporty, straight-forward, grinning, man (or person) of action. not that there is anything "wrong" with any of those qualities, if they happen to be yours naturally.
does anyone know anything about other cultures that perhaps have enshrined "shy" qualities as the cultural ideal? since i couldn't find my place in this culture as a kid, i created my own. a one person culture. but it is under constant assault still, even at the age of 41...
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Wed, May 18, 2005 - 10:06 PMMost Asian cultures seem to revere shyness and the respect of one's privacy. I'd like to check it out some time. -
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Thu, May 19, 2005 - 8:55 PMI wouldn't say there's a reverence for shyness. I think it's more not saying more than what needs to be said. It's about modesty and moderation. -
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Thu, May 19, 2005 - 10:10 PMsometimes I get "really laid back" and then sometimes I get "are you alright? you look so serious?"
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Sat, May 21, 2005 - 7:45 AMAll the time.It's ironic I just seem to have this doom and gloom thing hanging over me,people assuming I'm sad or upset, when actually I'm fine.I just never once saw the point in pretending to be happy and smiling when I'd rather not.Why waste it?Unfortunitly it puts people off at first.I've learned over the years to be more open but I feel this is just a part of me like it or not.
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Mon, May 30, 2005 - 10:52 PMPeople often tell me I look too serious or I seem stuck up. The first one bugs me, *especially* when they tell me to smile. Although I have to admit I do smile more than I used to nowadays. The second, I don't mind as much to be honest. Gotta have some kind of defense system, y'know? ;) -
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Mon, May 30, 2005 - 11:05 PMWell, I'm often told to smile too. Except I am smiling. Guess I don't have much of a smile. :-S
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Tue, May 31, 2005 - 2:38 AMYep. Mostly because I am. That is the normal way I sound and act. I get yelled at often when asking a question of people behind a counter or a cashier. I got yelled at a lot by a professor or two and a dean because I mumbled tersely and with great anxiety. I have loser written all over my face. ANd people treat me accordingly. I don;t make eye contact, and when I do, I lock in and glare. I have superpowers. I can piss ANYONE off in a matter of minutes, often without saying a word. -
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Tue, May 31, 2005 - 10:53 AMI have superpowers. I can piss ANYONE off in a matter of minutes, often without saying a word.
Haaa, that made me laugh! In the realm of super powers, maybe that's a good one to have? ;-)
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Tue, May 31, 2005 - 8:21 PMWell, my powers aren't quite there. I can piss people off in a matter of seconds. But I usually have to say something. And I'm not talking about inflammatory words. Just normal things that somehow manage to piss them off. -
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Tue, May 31, 2005 - 9:56 PMI can disappear from parties in a puff of smoke. -
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Sat, June 18, 2005 - 11:31 PMI imagine more that folk can't quite figure me out - because with some 'safe' people I can be quite chatty - don't understand why I'm so picky & I guess the 'un-safe' folk can't either!
you know fluffy people - cool
spiky cats - harder work for me!
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Fri, January 12, 2007 - 11:55 PMpeople think i ditch them all the time when they make me invitation. and in a degree i actually do. but its not because i dont like them. its just that im a lonely person and i dont enjoy social situations, they put me in a certain stress i just avoid many times. many other times i try to make an effort and go. it brings me trouble people think i dont like them or that im rude.
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Sun, January 14, 2007 - 4:03 AMOh god yeah, there are sooo many people that think i'm just plain rude, or just not interested...While in fact i'm just too scared to be more 'social'.
I must say, the anti-depressant's i'm on have made me a lot less anxious on that front, and thats really a huge relief. -
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Sun, January 21, 2007 - 6:15 PMI've been called stuck up, arrogant, aloof. Sometimes mean. Oh yeah, and stuck up.
I'm generally a 'smiler', but of course I have to warm up to you first. Keep in mind that impressions are made in the first ten seconds, so I guess it's usually too late at that point.
Not that I give a f--- anymore.
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Tue, January 23, 2007 - 6:45 AMI only try my best and take notice within 3 feet of my personal space. -
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Tue, January 23, 2007 - 7:44 AMThere are times when I feel like I'm just sending out these hostile vibes and pushing people away,when only all I'm feeling is just wanting to be left alone,not to be bothered at that time.Othertimes it's definitely misinterpeted as being something that I'm simply not feeling at that time towards that person,but they feel that I do.I've been accused of being stuck up and cold in the past,just very distant and remote...I'm working on trying to be more open and approachable but it just isn't that easy.I've been told I'm the queen of emotional armoring,which is funny because I feel too damn vulnerble and over sensitive,mabe it just doesn't show outwardly,mabe it's good defenses.Like a wall I have around myself to keep others out. -
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Tue, January 23, 2007 - 3:05 PMExactly, we do what we want, every minute of our lives, and there are no accidents.
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Wed, January 24, 2007 - 7:29 AMYeah I see what you're saying Scott,sometimes it has been conscious or deliberate on my part,and I'd be a fool if I refused to see how that effects how others may see me and approach me,and thus treat me.So yeah it snowballs into a monster if I'm not careful or too stuck in that.So it's a conscious choice to be self aware and realise how I might change my approach or outloook...as naturally that would attract or repell certain people. -
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Wed, January 24, 2007 - 11:14 AMFor a good reason and always, ultimately for the best...
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Wed, January 31, 2007 - 8:01 PMI relate to this thread a whole lot. The same, "are you ok?", "what's wrong?". Sometimes I can be outhere but if I'm intimidated by someone I become meek. Also after being with someone for like two hours I feel drained by the need to make conversation. Silence is sometimes a good thing.
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Sat, March 17, 2007 - 2:47 AMUGH I am sick of people judging me because I am not all that talkative before I really get to know someone. People are constantly telling their friends how "stuck up" they think I am - or that I am "mean" or "non approachable" and I have never even had a conversation with them - much less have they come up to chat with me. I know I am one of the most giving and understanding people but for some reason am always taken in this manner at first glance. I honestly don't think I am this way at all - nor do I feel as though I need to make an effort change my perona because it is "bad." I find myself in awkward situations all the time because it seems people are offended that I don't just jump in and talk to them or feel a need to get to know everyone that passes by intimately. It is later when the awkwardness happens when someone is like "so and so thinks you are not a nice person" - and I am confused because I have never even really paid attention - nor tried at all to make anyone feel this way. -
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Mon, March 19, 2007 - 8:00 AMSame for me Brian.It's frustrating and depressing,because inwardly I'mgenerally not that way at all,online it's easier to express that side of me.out in the world it's another story,it doesn't matter how nice I am,or how I smile and try to strike up small talk...I feel like I'm wearing and iron mask or something.I always walk away feeling misunderstood at times or ignored.I wonder if it isn't my perception of things,feeling that I'm being ignored or disliked when in actuallity it's not that way at all(when others in my life have set me straight on how they see the situation).It's an odd feeling when I have ran into people that won't look me in the eye and seem nervous,but someone else walks up to me and seems totally comfortable around me,friendly and easygoing.I feel like writting it off as mabe so and so wasn't haveing a good day,or feeling unwell and that I shouldn't take it so personally.Not to mention I myself have run into people I just plain didn't like and couldn't stand to be around,so who's to say others haven't felt that way around me in return?Don't know if that helps at all,just my experience. -
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Wed, August 8, 2007 - 6:30 AMIt gets more comfotable, and new challenges happen.
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